Bruce Gordon
Bruce Gordon
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Balloons in Alaska
The recent Chinese balloon that was shot down off the US East Coast reminds me of incidents with recon balloons in Alaska in 1963. That was 60 years ago! I was flying F-102s and what I witnessed was similar to what is happening now --- except my balloon was probably much higher than these new balloons.
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Curtis E LeMoose
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USAF tricks between squadrons in the Cold War. Bruce Gordon channel "Spirit of Attack". The SAC bomber squadron at Fairchild AFB, Spokane, Washington, had stolen a moose head called "Curtis E LeMoose" and challenged fighter squadrons to try to steal it. My fighter squadron from Geiger Field, Spokane, Washington stole it right out of their command center in a nuclear secure area! This is how we ...
F 102 Bailouts
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There were five F-102's lost in Alaska while I was flying there from 1961-1964. This is the story of three of those bailouts. One F-102 crashed and the pilot survived, and the other had too long a story to put into this video. I include the survival stories after the bailouts, where applicable.
Alert Hangars
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USAF Alert Hangars in Alaska, South Korea, and Vietnam in the 1960's. What they were like and events that occurred in them.
Spy Stories
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Two true Cold War spy stories from over 60 years ago.
F 102 Alaska
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I flew the F-102 interceptor in Alaska during the 1960s. This tells about my F-102 training and some of my intercepts of Russian planes in Alaska.
T 33 Instrument failure
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The first time I nearly got killed flying a jet. My heading indicator failed on an approach to McClellan AFB when the field was socked in by smog.
COCO SCRAMBLE
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F-106 squadron on Alert only a few minutes flying time from North Korea, 1969. How fast could you get the squadron airborne if there was a surprise attack? Two squadrons of F-4s were on alert beside us. We could get ALL our F-106s off the ground before the first F-4. A major reason: we had MOTORCYCLES!
Pilot Training
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What was USAF pilot training like in the 1950's? I was an AFROTC graduate and entered fighter pilot training. These are the bases and planes that I trained in, with one story of incidents with each of the aircraft.
French Resistance
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Two French patriots gave German secrets to British agents, but it cost them their lives.
Basic Fighter Tactics
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Basic tactics taught to F-106 pilots in Cold War to combat MiGs. Starting with the hard turn, the Defensive Turn, the Scissors, the High Speed Yo-Yo, and the Barrel Roll Attack. I was an instructor in Aerial Combat Tactics for the F-106 and taught these maneuvers to our pilots. We then deployed to South Korea, where I nearly had a battle with 20 MiGs (see video North Korean MiGs).
Radar Scopes
Просмотров 11 тыс.4 года назад
This is what interceptor aircraft's radar scopes looked like during an attack in the 1960's. I've never seen the radar scope presentations described anywhere on the Internet - so this is a first. I flew F-102s and F-106s and have spent many hours looking at these scopes, so I have personal experience with them.
Interceptor Tactics
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I flew F-86, F-102, and F-106 interceptors in the 1950's and 1960's. Here are the tactics we used for air defense against Russian bombers, and how we adapted those tactics so we could use them against fighters in Korea. I have never seen this information presented in public before. It is different from our training movies of the time (which are no longer available) because I have the ability of...
CBU in Vietnam
Просмотров 10 тыс.4 года назад
Cluster Bomb Units are small grenades packed into a bomb casing. CBU came in many versions. I dropped CBU-24 (simple explosive) and CBU-42 (aerial mine) in Vietnam. This video tells the development of CBU, of a few different versions, and the harrowing tale of when it went wrong in Vietnam but had a humorous ending!
Incoming #2
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Incoming #1 was about rocket attacks on Phan Rang, Vietnam while I was there. This is a mortar attack one night while I was there.
Incoming!
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Incoming!
HAVE DOUGHNUT
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HAVE DOUGHNUT
F 106 v F 4 Speed
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F 106 v F 4 Speed
Electronic Warfare
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Electronic Warfare
Bomb Threat
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Bomb Threat
Alaska bush flying
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Alaska bush flying
F 100 Dogfight
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F 100 Dogfight
Boys with Guns
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Boys with Guns
MISSILE WARNING FLUSH
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MISSILE WARNING FLUSH
IR Limitations
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IR Limitations
USS SEAWOLF
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USS SEAWOLF
Rabies in Vietnam
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Rabies in Vietnam
AC 130 Gunship Weapons
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AC 130 Gunship Weapons
Cold Scramble
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Cold Scramble
Alaska Earthquake 1964
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Alaska Earthquake 1964

Комментарии

  • @JETZcorp
    @JETZcorp 5 дней назад

    I'm fascinated by the F-106. If it had some more competent missiles available to it, I think it would be an unambiguous superior A2A platform to the F-4. Of course, once the Eagle showed up, it was game set and match for everything.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 5 дней назад

      THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE F-106 MISSILES. They had a PK (Probability of Kill) of over 90%. The problem the F-4s had in Vietnam was that the F-4 did not have the computer system needed to launch the missiles properly. The AIM-4 was better than the Sidewinder or the Sparrow. The F-106 was faster than the F-4 when combat loaded, could out-turn the F-4, had an excellent radar, and had BETTER missiles. Robin Olds was WRONG about the AIM-4. He blamed the AIM-4 missiles, while the problem was really the F-4's lack of an adequate computer. I will never forgive Robin Olds for giving the AIM-4 a bad name.

    • @JETZcorp
      @JETZcorp 4 дня назад

      @spiritofattack Thanks for the clarification, Bruce! I have to question the 90% Pk though, since even AMRAAMs and AIM-9X fired from AESA-equipped Eagles don't get that in combat. I should imagine that figure would have come from weapons tests stateside against non-maneuvering targets. I'm curious to know what the AIM-9 and AIM-7 got in similar tests. The infamous 11% Pk of the AIM-7 in Vietnam had a lot to do with the climate conditions and pilots taking close, high-aspect shots at MiG-17s. I love your stories and I love the Six!

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 4 дня назад

      @@JETZcorp The 90+% PK was the statistic that was determined by test firings in Florida over the years. I fired the AIM-4 missiles several times, and had hits every time. One of my hits (against a BOMARC missile, front attack with a Mach 3.5 closing rate) was a very short missile preparation time because safety didn't clear me to fire soon enough. I thought it would fail, but the computer used "computer time" instead of "real time", as it was programmed to do in tight situations, and it fired the missile quckly and effectively. The missile guided perfectly and hit the BOMARC's left engine spike (I saw it pretty close up!) and blew off the BOMARC's left wing. I also fired using infrared tracking against a drone. I misjudged the range to the target, and fired much too close. The missile guided perfectly and blew the drone to bits -- I was so close that I actually flew through the fireball and got some scratches on my wings! I think the Sidewinder or the Sparrow would have missed both times. The AIM-4 was better than the Sidewinder or the Sparrow for close in shots. Those missiles had a high boost rocket motor that made them go really fast, but during acceleration their controls were locked and didn't guide. So, their minimum fire distance was fairly long. The AIM-4 Falcon had a double boost system, a high boost to get it away for the fighter, then a sustained slower-burning rocket motor which lasted for some time. The result was that the AIM-4 would guide at much closer ranges than the Sidewinder or Sparrow. The AIM-4 also had much bigger fins and control surfaces. It would go more slowly, but was much more maneuverable. An enemy could outmaneuver a Sidewinder more easily than he could outmaneuver a Falcon. The Sidewinder would be coasting, without power, while the Falcon's bigger fins and long-burning rocket motor gave it maneuverability in hard turns. I'd rather have the AIM-4 Falcons than the Sidewinder or Sparrow.

  • @bradmiller9507
    @bradmiller9507 23 дня назад

    Balance Gravity? Who is Under Your Ass.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 23 дня назад

      I tried the maneuver in the F-106 that #williamcobb422 mentioned. We also put in full opposite rudder. It was extremely violent. I had my wingman behind me, and he said it was no probem following me -- but he was amazed that my plane held together. I never did it again -- it might tear the plane apart! Instead, we did the "rudder roll" of pulling the stick straight back and adding rull rudder. The F-106 would pitch up and roll, losing about 150 knots in seconds. Anyone behind you would go on past you and you'd roll out on his tail. Then you had to accelerate to catch him, but now you were behind him!

  • @bradmiller9507
    @bradmiller9507 23 дня назад

    Can YouFly Too?

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 23 дня назад

      Yes. I flew the T-34, T-28, T-33, F-86L, F-102, F-106 and the F-100. Did you say that you got the F-100 to go supersonic with external tanks? I have been to Mach 1.98 with tanks on in the F-106. The F-106 was a much better plane than the F-100, except it didn't carry bombs. To be useful in Vietnam, you had to carry bombs.

  • @DarrenB988
    @DarrenB988 Месяц назад

    Thank you, Bruce. That was very interesting 👍

  • @williamhanley934
    @williamhanley934 Месяц назад

    I too was stationed at 23rd Region as an Army Air Defense controller from October 1969-1971. We handled the Nike sites in the Twin Cuties, Milwaukee, Chicago, and Detroit. I got to know a lot of AF interceptors. During midnight shifts, we did a lot of cross training - even tried my hand at intercepts. Had to coordinate ECM request from SAC crews when the flew RBS missions against our missile sites. The 23rd Region was commanded by an Army Major General with an AF Brigadier and a Canadian Forces Brigadier as deputies. We also generated the “Faker” tracks from our consol for the Bomark tests. It was a great assignment.

  • @briannickerson6858
    @briannickerson6858 Месяц назад

    Interesting video. Just one major correction. The video shows an EC121 flown by the Air Force. I don’t see it mentioned in the video or any of the comments, but the EC121M aircraft shot down on April 15 1969 by NKAF MIG21s was PR21 with call sign DeepSea 129 from the US NAVY squadron VQ1 out of Naval Air Station Atsugi Japan. Not an Air Force plane. All 31 crew perished when the aircraft crashed in the Sea of Japan. Only two bodies were recovered, including a friend LTJG Joe Ribar. Two other friends on the aircraft were LT Dennis Gleason and LT John Singer. I was Air Intelligence Officer with VQ1 and had left for our detachment in Danang Vietnam a few days prior to the incident. The crew of PR21 had returned from our Danang Airbase detachment a week before the incident.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack Месяц назад

      I believe you are correct. I thought it was a USAF RC-121. I didn't even know that the Navy was flying EC-121s. I found out more after making the video. After publishing the video, I found out that my RC-121 designation was incorrect. I honor the men who flew those missions and who died to protect our country. Whether it was an RC-121 or an EC-121 doesn't matter to my basic story. It was a low, slow, vulnerable plane and we were there to protect it. We did. I wonder what would have happened if the MiGs hadn't turned back...

    • @briannickerson6858
      @briannickerson6858 Месяц назад

      @@spiritofattack Two years ago, I made a presentation to my Rotary Club on April 15, 2022 about the incident. Here is the presentation: ruclips.net/video/s9hq30YSGNM/видео.htmlsi=CzD9_Kva-FJKLpOL

  • @yudhistiraaldistaputramirz5925
    @yudhistiraaldistaputramirz5925 2 месяца назад

    Basically F-106 pilot did 2 men job by himself

  • @kiastar67
    @kiastar67 2 месяца назад

    I was wondering if you remembered my father, Lt. Col William R Carroll Jr., who was stationed at the base with my mother, Mary K. : from May 1962- Sept 1962- 1115Z, Flight check Pilot, 1855 Facilities Checking Flight, Elmendorf AFB and also Sept 1962 - June 1965, 1355A, T-33 Instructor Pilot, 317th FIS, Elmendorf AFB. My parents always spoke about that day! I know my father did quite a lot after this happened with flying and communications (I believe) and my mother went on to give talks on many cruises and other places, about the Earthquake. Awesome video! Thank you for sharing, sir!

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 2 месяца назад

      I don't remember your father -- but he and I were in the 317th at the same time and I flew T-33s while I was there. I remember a story that your father was probably inolved in. I have a video in my You Tube Spirit of Attack Balloons in Alaska that tells it. A balloon came over Alaska at low altitude. We didn't want the 317th's F-102 to shoot it, because the missiles would home in on the instrument package, which is what we wanted to look at. A sergeant in the T-33 section suggested that we use the target towing rig on a T-33. He took a small anchor from our Personal Services small fishing boats, sharpened the flukes, and attached it to the small cable used to tow targets. The T-33 flew to the balloon and reeled out the anchor on the thin cable. The T-33 flew low over the balloon, and the anchor snagged the balloon and popped it. The thin cable snapped, so the T-33 flew home safely. The balloon fell into the forest, and we recovered it. I don't know any more details of where it was from or what it was doing. Your father may well have been flying that T-33!

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 2 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/63-e1ko007g/видео.html

    • @kiastar67
      @kiastar67 2 месяца назад

      ​@@spiritofattack I'm so sorry, I had a retort written out for you and my computer crashed, again. Uggg! I am so excited to get the response from you and to get your story! It made me cry! My father passed on from Agent Orange in 1987 and I still miss him so very much. My parents were just some of the best parents anyone could ever have. I was so blessed to have them as parents. I'd love to send you some photos if you have an email! One photo is of my father and another soldier snowshoeing back to a tandem-rotor helicopter way out in the middle of nowhere in a snow covered valley. I believe they are training out in the middle of ... Alaska somewhere? Another he took while flying over Alaska ( I think. LOL) in his aircraft. I have some I feel you'd might enjoy! Again , thank you so very much for getting back to me so quickly, Best thing that has happened in a LONG time. I'm hoping more than anything to find some video of him so I can hear his voice again. Remember back in the day when the guys went to Korean and Vietnam and they and their wives would often send cassette tapes back and forth? I found a few cassettes with my mom's and my voice talking to my father, but his voice was taped over. Thanks again so very much! I loved your story and that you're willing to share with everyone! Kathryn Carroll (My father was Col. William R. Carroll Jr. ) (More below)

  • @ernestoross
    @ernestoross 2 месяца назад

    I served at Phan Rang AFB from Jan-Mar 1967, with the 1882 Comm Sqd. (I was then transferred to DaNang AFB where the F4's were stationed.) At Phan Rang I slept in tents (Hooches) with wooden sidewalks to keep us out of the mud during monsoons. We had Hooch Maids that took care of our laundry and polished our brogans. Latrines were outside and showers were cold water only! The chow hall was a quarter of a mile walk and we ate out of mess kits. There wasn't any sandbag protection and there wasn't protection for the F100's. That was a USAF Sgts life at that time.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 2 месяца назад

      Do you attend the Phan Rang reunions? At last year's reunion, we had some very good speakers about the early days of Phan Rang, and the rocket attacks in January 1970. I didn't get there until September 1970. One of the speakers was from the early days, and showed the wooden sidewalks and the mud. Are you interested in a reunion? Doug Severt is the man running ther reunion this year..dougsevert@cox.net

    • @ernestoross
      @ernestoross 2 месяца назад

      @@spiritofattack Thank you for that connection, I'll send him an email.

  • @12footsativa
    @12footsativa 2 месяца назад

    Awesome work Sir, that’s amazing, can’t imagine the training, the work and the dedication for God, Honor and Country you and your fellow Airmen put in. Never Forget

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 2 месяца назад

      I watched it again -- it brings back memories! There was another engagement that I had with the same instructor, which I didn't describe because the video would get too long. The second one ended when I was on his tail and he dove to escape, but went below our safety altitude and I called the fight off for safety reasons. I had another unofficial dogfight while in Vietnam (purely against regulations, as we were armed and had not pre-briefed it). That is described in my video on "Rudder Reversal".

  • @baltukur3368
    @baltukur3368 2 месяца назад

    stealth wont work can stil detect heat of engine exhaust 😂😂😂

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 2 месяца назад

      Stealth DOES work. The design provides cooling air to reduce IR from the sides and cools the jet exhaust. The aircraft tail section is designed to shield the exhaust from view except from directly behind. Attacking planes would be detected long before they got to the 6 o’clock position to see the IR. As I said in the video, IR has many limitations which make it less useful than radar for combat. Stealth does not make an aircraft invisible, just low observable. Tests have shown that stealth fighters completely dominate non stealth fighters.. It’s not even close.

  • @LP59GoldTop
    @LP59GoldTop 2 месяца назад

    Great stories, Mr. Gordon. My father was a a UPT instructor in the 50's and early 60's, until the contractor flying training was phased out. Pop didn't talk much about his time in the military or his contract work with the USAF. Your video is very well done and gives great detail of your experiences. It also managed to bring back some amazing 60 yr old memories of my father. Thank you for taking the time to put your video together and sharing it with us.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 2 месяца назад

      Thank you for your comment. T remember my basic flight training instructor warmly. He was a civilian contractor like your dad and helped me enjoy flying!

  • @juanibanez4439
    @juanibanez4439 2 месяца назад

    Thank you Master.

  • @shadowgunner69
    @shadowgunner69 3 месяца назад

    Hey Ho Col. Gordon. I was an F-106 weapons crewman and later crew chief with the 5th FIS, 84th FIS and 144FIG. I will add some conjecture to the story: As the Migs vectored toward the recon bird, their GCI advised that, although there were only four escort fighters, they were F-106s. I'm sure all communist nations were well versed in the combat capabilities of the F-106. Upon the enemy's realization of what an F-106 "full combat load" consisted of, they rethought the engagement, and returned home, not wishing to engage the "Genie." Once again, the F-106 does it's job without firing a shot.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 3 месяца назад

      Interesting -- it never occurred to me that the North Koreans might think that we had Genie nuclear weapons on board. We didn't even have them in Korea. I'm glad we didn't have them - using them would have changed history. From a tactical viewpoint, if the four of us were going toward the 20 MiGs, and one of us fired a nuclear weapon, it would likely have blinded the other three pilots who would be looking out of the cockpit to see the MiGs. We were trained to call "20 SECONDS TO BIG BANG" when our computer calculated 20 seconds to fire, so other pilots in the area could look down in their cockpits and not be looking at the fireball. However, we had never practiced it and I'm not confident that the call would have been made. I had confidence in our IR and radar missiles. I'm glad we didn't have the Genie!

    • @shadowgunner69
      @shadowgunner69 3 месяца назад

      @@spiritofattack Thank you for the reply. I always enjoy your presentations. I certainly cannot argue with your insight. It was just a bit of imagination and "I wonder if..." Followed by, "I should ask Col. Gordon." I admit I also pondered the ramifications of launching a Genie in that theater. I spent the following year TDY to K2 & K8 supporting F4Ds. I had many sleepless nights from the Norks trying to penetrate the bases. Blues skies and much respect to you sir.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 3 месяца назад

      @@shadowgunner69 I had never thought of the Genie -- now your comment makes me wonder if the North Korean MiGs might really have thought we had the Genie loaded. Sometimes they believe their own misinformation. During the Berlin Blockade in 1948, the US sent B-29 bombers to England. The Russians knew that the B-29 had dropped atomic bombs on Japan, and assumed that those B-29's represented a nuclear threat. In fact, it took big modifications for the B-29 to carry nuclear bombs, and the B-29s to England were not capable of carrying the Bomb. It was a nuclear threat without any nukes! We thought that Saddam Hussain in Iraq was working on nukes, but he wasn't. We believed he would poison gas, but he didn't. Maybe those MiG's turned back because they thought the F-106s carried Genies. I never thought of that before...

  • @ahsanshadman1413
    @ahsanshadman1413 3 месяца назад

    It's great ! you are making it so easy to understand.

  • @Newtype93
    @Newtype93 3 месяца назад

    Hi Bruce, Im trying to gather as much data as I can about the F-106 so that I can give all of it to a DCS Developer in the hopes that theyll make it, they are currently open to anything they can get their hands on as long as they have all the necessary information. I have the flight manuals and performance manuals but the issue Im running into is that they dont have any turn data in them. Do you have any info about this or can point me in the right direction? Im going to file a FOIA request for the T.O. 1F-106A-29 as well, fingers crossed it isnt flat out classified because of the Genie. I feel like Ive hit a brick wall and coming to the realization that I might never get to fly the 106 even in a digital world is crushing.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 3 месяца назад

      Alex -- We didn't have turn rate data on fighters in the 1960s. It wasn't classified -- we simply didn't have it and didn't use it! We did have charts showing the number of G's available at different speeds and altitudes. You've created the need for turn rae data with DCS computing! We'd take the two planes up in formation, light afterburneres and did maximum turns. We saw which one turned tightest, and which one lost airspeed. HAVE DOUGHNUT put a MiG-21F against an F-106. They did turn, and the F-106 maintained its speed while completing the turn faster than the MiG-21, but as the MiG-21 slowed, it turned in a smaller radius so that it was pulling a gun lead on the F-106. The conclusion was that the F-106 shouldn't turn with the MiG-21, even if the F-106 maintained speed better, because the MiG-21 could shoot you down in the turn. People say that the delta wing would lose speed in a tight turn, but our J-75 engine was so powerful that we kept speed better in a turn than the MiG-21. The differfence in altitude was critical in turns. The F-106 had a low wing-loading of 52 pounds/sq ft, against the F-15's 73.1 psf, so the F-106 could out-turn the F-15 at altitude (I heard of someone who did it). The F-16 wing loading was 88.3 psf, so the F-106 should be able to out-turn the F-16 at altitude. However, at low altitudes the wing loading is not the determining factor in thicker air, so I expect the F-15 and probably the F-16 could could out-turn the F-106 at low altitudes. The F-106 was faster than the F-16. We discovered in unofficial rat-race engagements that the F-106 could out-turn the F-4, and I discovered in an exercise that the F-105 and F-106 were about the same around Mach 1.5. I flew the F-106 against the F-102, and had plenty of power to go vertical but the F-102 could always out-turn me. I heard of F-102s out-turning the F-100 in rat races. We passed around stories of engagements, but we never the measured data that you're looking for.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 3 месяца назад

      Alex -- this is some data that I digested from the HAVE DOUGHNUT tests in Area 51: MIG-21F Area 51 1968 MIG-21F 8,600 lbs dry, 12,650 lbs A/B gross weight 19,235 lbs. = 0.65 thrust/weight F-106 16,100 lbs dry, 24,500 lbs A/B gross weight 34,510 lbs. = 0.71 thrust/weight MiG has severe buffering above 595 KIAS Gunsight not useful above 3 G’s, pipper jitter ACCELERATION 35,000’ starting at 200 knots, were even up to .95, then F-106 moved out to 2,000 to 3,000 feet ahead due to ease in getting through Mach. Accelerated only to Mach 1.25, where the F-106 gets better. The MiG nose cone positioning has only three positions: subsonic, Mach 1.5, and Mach 2, while the F-106 variable ramp is activated at Mach 1.2 and programs up to Mach 2+. TURNS 35,000 feet. F-106 in optimum turn at Mach 1.2. F-106 bled down to 3 G and 250 knots. The MiG bled down to 2 1/2 G and 200 knots. Although the F-106 had more speed, the MiG was able to stay inside the F-106 turn. INTERCEPTS F-106 had contacts at 18-25 miles, depending on angle, enough for positioning and firing. However, when not given GCI, both the MiG and the F-106 passed through the area, most of the time without seeing each other. GCI is needed.

    • @Newtype93
      @Newtype93 3 месяца назад

      @@spiritofattack Hi Bruce, I wasnt expecting a response so quickly! Its a shame to hear that there are in fact no charts about the turn data, but Ive gone over the manuevering chart with a retired fighter pilot friend of mine and Ive learned some things, such as the corner speed being 350 KCAS at sea level. I have heard that the climb charts can also tell you a lot about how it performed in other aspects. All is not lost just yet. On the topic of the weapon manual, it seems there is only one and it encompasses all weapons including the Genie which is a bit of a punch in the gut because that complicates the declassification process. Im hoping now that 67 years after the 106 entered service the secrets of the Genie are now no longer valuable pieces of information. I mean it cant be that secret, its a rocket with a nuclear warhead, it doesnt seem too crazy to keep under wraps to me. I was hoping that there would have been two different manuals, one for the AIM-4s and one for the Genie, in which case it wouldnt be an issue as DCS doesnt allow nuclear weapons to be made anymore anyhow. In any case Im still going to file a FOIA request and see what happens, maybe itll bear fruit in the end. I didnt know the F-102 was a good turner! I always assumed it was underpowered and not very good as it was always in the F-106's shadow.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 3 месяца назад

      @@Newtype93 Alex, the F-102 was a lot better plane than we thought it was -- we always imagined that the F-100 could beat the F-102 in a dogfight. Nobody had ever tried. There was an exercise in Florida where F-100s were attacking the base and F-102s were defending, and we were surprised to find that the F-102 could beat the F-100! Of course, without a gun it was useless in a turning dogfight. I later flew the F-100 in Vietnam, and yes, the F-102 flew better than the F-100. I seldom went supersonic in the F-100 or the F-102, but went supersonic easily and often in the F-106. The F-102 didn't have any bad flying characteristics. Compare that to the F-100, which had severe adverse yaw problems and even its altimeter was inaccurate as speed changed. In the F-100 landing pattern, we'd come up on the initial at about 350 knots (I don't remember exactly) and would pitch out, pulling back on power, extending speed brakes, decreasing to 230 knots -- and we'd have to CLIMB about 400 feet because our altimeter error was changing with the slower airspeed, and by climbing 400 feet we were actually staying level! The altimeter was actually more accurate at slower speeds, so it was accurate for landing -- but what a poor design! The F-106 was a technological jump from the F-102, and also had the far more powerful J-75 engine which brought us to Mach 2 with external tanks! The F-106 weighed a lot more, so it couldn't turn with the F-102. I tried the F-106 against an F-102 in South Korea on a rat-race, and proved that the F-106 can't out-turn the F-102, but the F-106 sure had a lot more power to zoom out of trouble -- but the F-102 was always pointing at me... I have fired the non-nuclear Genie in practice, and have pulled many hours of Alert with the nuclear Genie. It should not be classified any more, except maybe the nuclear components, which weren't described in that detail in the manual. Almost everything was classified, and now should be declassified.

    • @Newtype93
      @Newtype93 3 месяца назад

      @@spiritofattack Bruce, I didnt know about the F-100's altimeter problem. The only thing I could think of is an issue with the static port but Im not pilot (yet) and all the information I know is from taking my PPL written test. Theres an F-100D being made for DCS by a developer by the name of Grinnelli, theres no ETA for it, but its progressing smoothly. Theres a few behind the scenes videos on it that Ill link here ruclips.net/video/yxoxfzGUzG4/видео.htmlsi=P1fmGyNZJK768p7b . I saw that the F-106 is only artificially limited to Mach 2 because of technical reasons, I assume it was due to external fuel tanks. I think I saw somewhere that it could fly up to 2.35. Nice to hear about the manual most likely being declassified. I am about to go through some background checks for my SIDA badge so that I can work at the airport, so I wont be requesting any information through FOIA until that process is done, lest it raise any red flags. And one last thing, Ive got a friend thats curious about the IRST. How good of a sensor was it, was it resistant to flares (if that was even tested), and was it susceptible to picking up hot spots from stuff on the ground or even clouds. I think you probably have talked about it in a video before so I'll go searching myself. This same friend thinks the F-106 also could have lived on should it have been upgraded with a new radar with updated AIM-4s. Hes been digging into the Hughes radar but information is scarce, if I remember correctly he found out that it was MTI. (Hes a big believer in the AIM-4 and thinks it would have been better than the Sidewinder given some more time.)

  • @camojack6293
    @camojack6293 4 месяца назад

    I was stationed there 84’-85’ aircraft maintenance. I worked for Harold’s air on my days off. I flew all over with the maintenance director of Harold’s air. Got to see most of the villages, helped haul snowmobiles to different villages in the 206’s we had F-15’s….we scrambled twice while I was on. Duty. I have two pics of Russian planes that the pilot took when they intercepted them. But yep. It was a drunk…..we piled wood pallets for 2 days on the bank of the Yukon then New Year’s Eve 1985 we set it on fire. Partied till early morning…..we had a civilian pilot tells us that he could see the flames for miles when he was flying over. It burned for a week…..

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 4 месяца назад

      Wow! Great stories -- Harold's Air wasn't there when I was there -- interesting to hear how things turned out for Galena!

  • @spiritofattack
    @spiritofattack 4 месяца назад

    One of my favorite 1960's Alert Hangar stories is from King Salmon Air Base on the Aleutian panhandle. The King Salmon river would freeze up every winter, so everything heavy had to come in the summer by ship. We had to put a lot of stuff into storage, and sometimes we ran out of storage. We were only using four of eight Alert hangars for our F-102s, so several were not used. One summer, the Base Commander was getting an update on storage of supplies coming off a ship. A Lieutenant spoke up: "Sir, I'd like to store things in the Alert Hangars" "Lieutenant, just WHAT do you want to store in MY ALERT HANGARS?" "Toilet paper, SIR!"

  • @JackHowe32
    @JackHowe32 4 месяца назад

    Hello Bruce, Jack again. I would like to buy your book (signed of course). How can I do that?

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 4 месяца назад

      Send $20 (cash, check or PayPal) with your name & mailing address to Bruce Gordon, 105 Broadbill Ct., Georgetown KY 40324. I'll mail it to you postage and taxes paid. I usually sign it with my motto: "Jack - Always be spring-loaded in the GO position!"

  • @f.t.504
    @f.t.504 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for that content! 😊

  • @Nghilifa
    @Nghilifa 5 месяцев назад

    Marvellous Mr. Gordon, thank you for sharing your insights with us, may you have a blessed 2024.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 5 месяцев назад

      Thank you! There isn't much information on the Web about what we really saw on our scopes in the 1960's.

  • @spiritofattack
    @spiritofattack 5 месяцев назад

    I wrote that story 9 years ago, and I'm still around, at age 89, to enjoy your comments! Keep them coming! The F-106 was my favorite fighter, and the AIM-4G Falcon was my favorite missile. I will not forgive Robin Olds for giving the Falcon a bad name -- his problem was the F-4, which did not have the computer necessary to handle the Falcon. That was a dammed good missile, and I would prefer it to the Sidewinder of that time. I understand that the newer Sidewinders adopted some features of the Falcon after Raytheon bought out the Hughes missile company. The Falcon's cooled seeker head made it far better than the uncooled Sidewinder, yet it had to be activated at the correct time. In the F-106, this was done by the computer. In the F-4, the back seater had to do it, and screwed it up, making the missile blind.

  • @tonycondolor1272
    @tonycondolor1272 5 месяцев назад

    Was there as a civilian mechanic for LSI in 72 when the A-37 came in and later sent Canto.

  • @angrypandaification
    @angrypandaification 5 месяцев назад

    Good day Mr Gordon. Hope you're well. I started watching this show called Steve Canyon and the main aircraft used was the F-102. Found your video while searching for any information on the plane and this was suggested. Thanks for such an awesome briefing on the F-102, very informative and entertaining. Take care.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 5 месяцев назад

      Oh, yes, I remember Steve Canyon! Look around my Facebook / Spirit of Attack / Bruce Gordon page and you'll find a number of videos about the F-102. I enjoyed flying it -- it was a big, frightening plane at first, but when I got used to flying it, it became like putting on a suit of work clothes. It was my body, I was its brain. I loved the F-102 and then upgraded to the F-106, which we called "the sports model" with so much more thrust than the F-102. However, the F-102 had a lighter wing loading and could out-turn the F-106 -- one of the few planes that could out-turn the F-106!

  • @Farmer_1776
    @Farmer_1776 5 месяцев назад

    You still kicking Bruce?

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 5 месяцев назад

      Yes, indeed, I'm 89 years old and still kicking! I spend a lot of my time on Quora, which often asks interesting military questions. I often link them to my RUclips videos. The ones on infrared limitations and ECM still get good reviews!

    • @Farmer_1776
      @Farmer_1776 5 месяцев назад

      @@spiritofattack so glad to hear that you are still around. Enjoy the heck out of your content! Keep it up. Happy New Year to you and Yours!

  • @astos1244
    @astos1244 6 месяцев назад

    excellent video, I learn a lot

  • @EricPham-gr8pg
    @EricPham-gr8pg 6 месяцев назад

    Under water cannot be detect and that new perspective enlightening direct current telegraph hard to jam but it use mirror so no bomb can target

  • @EricPham-gr8pg
    @EricPham-gr8pg 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks at two 1904 port Arthur had radiotelescope so strong that no plane can survive (38 north 208 west

  • @JackHowe32
    @JackHowe32 6 месяцев назад

    Hope you are doing good Mr. Gordon, your videos are truely intresting and very entertaining. Thank you for everything you have done! Thank you for your service!

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 6 месяцев назад

      Thank you, Jack! I'm 89 years old now, but still going strong and very much interested in military aviation. My most important mission was probably during Nixon's Madman Nuclear Alert of 1969, which coincided with the Sino-Soviet dispute over the border along the Amur River that nearly led to war between Russia and China. I got involved in it by buzzing Russian warships off of North Korea. My Spirit of Attack / Something BIG #1 / and Something BIG #2 showed that Russia was about to invade China, but was apparently (accidentally) scared off by Nixon's Madman Nuclear Alert. It shows why China still does not trust Russia, and vice-versa. Watch those two videos!

    • @JackHowe32
      @JackHowe32 6 месяцев назад

      Great to hear! I will go watch those videos right now!

    • @JackHowe32
      @JackHowe32 6 месяцев назад

      Do you by chance know the names of those two videos?

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 6 месяцев назад

      @@JackHowe32 RUclips / Spirit of Attack / Something BIG#1 and Something BIG #2

    • @JackHowe32
      @JackHowe32 6 месяцев назад

      Roger, going to check them out now! @@spiritofattack

  • @Fast85FoxGT
    @Fast85FoxGT 6 месяцев назад

    Hope you're doing well still Mr Gordon!. Coming back to revisit some of your shared stories and knowledge. Thanks!

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 6 месяцев назад

      I'm still doing quite well. At age 89 I'm still giving lectures at our local library. I follow developments in Ukraine closely, and am horrified that the US Congress failed to pass funding for Ukraine !

  • @LawNeu
    @LawNeu 6 месяцев назад

    Still one of my favorite videos on this platform. Thanks for the information!

  • @bobgriffiths1402
    @bobgriffiths1402 6 месяцев назад

    This is EXACTLY how my father-in-law tells the story today (Tony Melli). What a hoot!

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 6 месяцев назад

      I love to hear from you! How is Tony doing? I'm 89 years old now, but doing well. I still give talks about the events that I witnessed. The most important events of my career are described in my two videos, Something BIG #1 and Something BIG #2 on RUclips. That happened and has implications in today's relations between Russia and China. It's partly covered on the Internet under the Madman Nuclear Alert of 1969, but I saw how it was simultaneous with the Sino-Soviet incident over the Amur River islands. By buzzing Russian warships, I got in the middle of it!

  • @khatokhato9350
    @khatokhato9350 6 месяцев назад

    Bruce, how are you doing so far? We met 3 years ago. Do you remember:Geese saved the Rome?

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 6 месяцев назад

      I remember that the geese saved Rome, but I don't remember meeting you. Where was it that we met? Tell me more.

    • @khatokhato9350
      @khatokhato9350 6 месяцев назад

      @@spiritofattack we were discussing the video you recollected whiskey compass and how it helped you to return on right heading flying T33.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 6 месяцев назад

      @@khatokhato9350 Ah, yes, I remember a discussion about the whiskey compass! It was very complex to use, especially in turns. We studied it for hours in classrooms -- but now it's seldom used.

    • @khatokhato9350
      @khatokhato9350 6 месяцев назад

      @@spiritofattack I am glad we are having conversation again! I am just back from my friend. Back in 80s he was an employee on aircrafts manufacturing facility. They were manufacturing su25s. His objective was testing the electrical circuitry of the aircraft. He recollected the quality of assembly was so poor, that first plain when flown lost its wing and collapsed. After it was investigated that the fasteners were forcibly stuck with hammers into holes, because the wing and fuselage attachment holes did not coincide exactly. Once flown the joints cannot withstand the forces and broken off!

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 6 месяцев назад

      @@khatokhato9350 I heard that the first production SU-27 crashed on its delivery flight. Never heard why it crashed. In the USA, planes are test-flown at the factory before they are delivered. There are always likely to be some problems, but big problems should be fixed before the plane is delivered to the military.

  • @terjeoseberg990
    @terjeoseberg990 6 месяцев назад

    Great video. Thanks for posting.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 6 месяцев назад

      Thanks. The basics of EW are still there, even after the equipment has been superseded with much smaller and faster systems.

    • @terjeoseberg990
      @terjeoseberg990 6 месяцев назад

      @@spiritofattack, Do you believe modern pilots required to understand EW to the extent that you were required to understand it back then?

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 6 месяцев назад

      @@terjeoseberg990 No, I don't think modern pilots know as much about ECM as we did in the 1960's. In the 1960's we saw raw radar on the computer and could see the ECM actively working and could see the effect of our ECCM. Now the pilot doesn't see raw radar, but sees a computer display. The computer decides what ECCM to use. The pilot doesn't have to know the kinds of ECM; the computer does it for him. We did a few informal tests in the 1970s which showed this. A pilot with no ECM experience in an F-15 was defeated by an ECM target -- he didn't realize that his computer was goofed up. A pilot with experience in ECM from interceptors quickly recognized the computer error, changed his attack profile, and got the target. We did the same thing with F-4s. A regular F-4 crew with no ECM experience was defeated; an F-4 crew with interceptor ECM experience got the target. Seeing ECM on your scope, and interpreting it correctly, was important. I'm sure the computers these days are much better with ECCM, but my point is that the pilots no longer see raw radar and therefore leave it up to the computer to decide what to do. The pilot doesn't have to know as much about ECM as we did in the 1960's or 1970's.

  • @FLAC2023
    @FLAC2023 7 месяцев назад

    Excellent

  • @bjjace1
    @bjjace1 7 месяцев назад

    these videos are aviation treasures. Thank You Mr. Gordon for doing these. I read all your content on Quora too

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 7 месяцев назад

      Thanks! I'm 89 years old now but still going strong. My most important videos are "Something BIG #1" and "Something BIG #2", but they don't get as much attention. I saw proof that Nixon's Madman Nuclear Alert of 1969 came at the same time as the Sino-Soviet dispute had the Russians ready to attack China. I saw a Soviet fleet off of North Korea. Probably the most important moment of my career -- I gave a talk about it at our local Library a few day ago... I think it's the least known major Cold War event.

  • @runlowofficial
    @runlowofficial 7 месяцев назад

    Who else came here from warthunder 😭

  • @ShockeWulf190
    @ShockeWulf190 7 месяцев назад

    Very nice video!

  • @bobyoung1698
    @bobyoung1698 8 месяцев назад

    There must be a better way to portray these three devices. While I understand the basic principles, it was a little hard to follow.

  • @publicmail2
    @publicmail2 8 месяцев назад

    Just was reading Bruce's FB page and he's a Trump hater, too bad. He was "quoting" something out of context he probably heard on the bias media about Trump.

  • @JG27Korny
    @JG27Korny 8 месяцев назад

    This video is pure gold. The fun part is that it is usefull to ordinary people trying to master dogfight on multiplayer dogfight servers of the military flight sims, like il2 and dcs, even warthunder.

  • @pauljackson1744
    @pauljackson1744 9 месяцев назад

    Excellent

  • @justforever96
    @justforever96 9 месяцев назад

    The artifical horizon and steering dot i assume show the pilot how his _own_ aircraft is banking and pitching, not "the target" as you say. I assume that was a slip of the tongue. The best radar was not able to detect the bank angle of the target at that time. And it wouldn't really be relevant info anyway. And I'm a little confused by your presentation. You say the number 30 in the upper right is the range, but the next two screens you say "the range is 18/8 miles" but that nuggets number stays at 30. Oh the first screen you say the gap in the circle "shows a 500kt overtake" and the screen says the same thing. But at the bottom of the screen it says "six hundred knot overtake". And our says "target is higher than you are" but it doesn't say how you can tell the relative altitude. The pipper on the jizzle bar seems to be below the horizon and never shows very high up the scale. Does that depend on that elevation the radar antenna is raised to?

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 9 месяцев назад

      Good questions. Yes, the artificial horizon and steering dot show the F-102s position, not the target’s bank angle. The number 30 shows that the 30 mile scope is selected, not the range to the target. The range to the target is estimated by the pilot looking at the target’s position on the jizzle band, where the jizzle band represents 30 miles on a 30 mile scope. 600 knots overtake would be if the gap in the outer circle was at the 6 o’clock position. In this case, the trailing edge of the break is about the 4:30 position. I said 500 knots instead of 4:30 for simplicity. “Target is higher than you are” is from the antenna position marker on the right side of the scope, not the target in the jizzle band on the left. The antenna position shows the angle up to the target. Reading the scope takes practice.

  • @justforever96
    @justforever96 9 месяцев назад

    Love this coverage of the workings of the radar interface, its hard to find anything about this stuff. All most sources say is "the F-102/F-4 had an advanced radar system" or "the F-104 had a simple rangw only radar", with no details at all any how the work or what the operator sees on his screen.

  • @Husker513
    @Husker513 9 месяцев назад

    hi, can electronic warfare somehow influence the operation of ICBMs?

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 9 месяцев назад

      Not normally. The ICBM is a ballistic missile and does not rely on outside signals, so is immune to ECM. Some missiles now use GPS satellite signals to improve their accuracy -- but then they're no longer ballistic, and it opens them to ECM against the GPS signals. The improvement in accuracy by using GPS might be worth the added vulnerability to ECM.

    • @Husker513
      @Husker513 9 месяцев назад

      @@spiritofattack thanks, i thought ICBM rely on outside signals from satellite to reach long distance accuracy, and EW/ECM can disrupt it

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 9 месяцев назад

      @@Husker513 No, ICBMs don't normally rely on outside signals.

  • @0Ploxx
    @0Ploxx 9 месяцев назад

    Didn’t think the falcons were capable of going all-aspect Definitely beat the British Red Tops and the AIM-9L to the ability that’s for sure, especially since the Red Top required almost perfect weather conditions just to even launch the damn thing, even if it did come first

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 9 месяцев назад

      I was a bit surprised that the infrared Falcon AIM-4G missile could hit on the front quarter. To hit the BOMARC, it had to take a lead-collision path, which requires knowing the range to the target, which you don't get with IR. I vaguely remember hearing that the AIM-4G would take the range and closure rate from the F-106's MA-1 computer system - which got it from my radar lock-on. The angle was taken from its own guidance, and would keep the same angle that it had at launch. So, it would work if the target didn't maneuver. The time factor was so short (just seconds from launch to impact) that there was no time for the BOMARC to maneuver. The AIM-9L, if it takes everything from IR (which I believe is the case) does not have range to the target, which is essential to plot a lead collision course.

    • @Ensign_Cthulhu
      @Ensign_Cthulhu 5 месяцев назад

      @@spiritofattack Do you think the F-106 would have done any better with the AIM-4 in combat than the F-4D, with the fire control system to manage the missiles, or would the unpredictability of manoeuvre combat and the limited supply of coolant have told against it as with the Phantoms? The Falcon didn't achieve many kills, with a kill rate similar to the Sparrow and Sidewinder, but every AIM-4D kill had to be a direct hit, so arguably the Falcon was the "better" missile. A pity the proximity-fuzed XAIM-4H never entered production.

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 5 месяцев назад

      @@Ensign_Cthulhu Yes, I think the F106 would have done better than the F-4 with the Falcon vs the Sidewinder. Our computer solved the problems about cooling. In the BOMARC attack, I could not arm the missile until the last few seconds because of safety reasons -- my Squadron Commander was too close to the target. I wasn't able to arm the missile until seconds before firing. The computer had a "time compression mode" where it made "computer seconds" shorter than "real seconds" and was able to launch the missile in seconds -- I can't remember exactly, but I would guess between 5 and 10 seconds before firing. The missile guided perfectly! The Falcon (AIM-4G) had a two-level rocket engine -- a quick power to get it away from the fighter, and a sustainer engine which kept thrust going for much longer. It also had bigger fins than the Sidewinder. The Sidewinder had a one-pulse motor which pushed the Sidewinder to very high speed, but then the motor burned out and the Sidewinder coasted to the target. The Sidewinder didn't guide while the rocket motor was burning, so at close range it could go right past the target without guiding. The result was that the Sidewinder couldn't handle a close-in target or a turning target as well as the Falcon. One more thing - the F-106 was NOT the best plane for Vietnam because we were designed for high altitude combat. Above 20,000 feet I think we could whip anybody, but below 20,000 feet our radar got cluttered by ground return, and our turning advantage of our light wing loading was not important at low altitude. In Vietnam, we could have cruised over Vietnam all day at 40,000 feet -- but the MiGs wouldn't have come up to do battle. MiGs only fought when the odds were in their favor, or to stop a strike force carrying bombs. A strike force loaded with bombs can't go very high, so they usually stayed pretty low -- and low altitude was not good for the F-106. Our flying high would not have been a good cover for a strike force at low altitude.

  • @josefwitt9772
    @josefwitt9772 9 месяцев назад

    I just finished your interview on Fighter Pilot Podcast and shared your description of SAGE with a friend who's also a systems engineer type. (To think, he is heavily involved in cloud computing and machine learning in support of logistics - imagine what the SAGE developers could have done with tools like that!) Excellent interview and what a cool piece of military and computing history. As an aviation lover that spends a lot of time in the DCS game, history buff, ham technician, tech professional... interviews like that and videos like these are absolute gold. Thanks for taking the time to explain this stuff to the rest of us, and thanks for your service to our country. It really means a lot to me, and I'm sure, many thousands like me. I'm in awe regarding the technology as well as the things guys like you did and simply said "no sweat" - I'm no spring chicken but even my generation has a lot to learn from our predecessors!

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 9 месяцев назад

      Thank you, Josef! SAGE was vacuum-tube technology, but it was a huge step forward.

  • @F1fan007
    @F1fan007 10 месяцев назад

    I had no idea how frequent mechanical problems prompted an ejection back then. Did the early ejection seats in the 102 and 106 cause a lot of spinal injuries?

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 10 месяцев назад

      There was a transition from a fired cartridge blasting the seat out, to using a rocket. The rocket had fewer spinal injuries. The F-106 had a bad ejection seat (that I flew with) that was designed for supersonic ejection. It was far too complex, and failed frequently, often causing the death of the pilot. Designed for supersonic ejection was wrong -- most ejections are slow and close to the ground, often under uncontrolled situations. Now the emphasis is on "zero-zero" ejections -- zero altitude at zero airspeed -- even ejecting while on the ground. It's a more important design to survive a low altitude, descending, out-of-control situation than a controlled supersonic ejection, which is rare.

  • @bambam144
    @bambam144 10 месяцев назад

    many thx for the instructions sir. and u would laugh ur butt off, what i will do with this information. i am going to do this in world of warplanes ;D have a good one sir!

    • @spiritofattack
      @spiritofattack 10 месяцев назад

      The problem with these basic tactics is that the easy counter to it is to just turn into the attack. Turning into the attack will foul up all these easy maneuvers. It mostly works if the other guy doesn't see you! The basic defensive maneuver is to TURN INTO THE ATTACK.

  • @bambam144
    @bambam144 10 месяцев назад

    holy cow, this is very interesting stuff. many thx for taking the time and explain this stuff to us sir.